Comments on: Pilot Scram Ti Gravel Bike First w/ Pinion Smart.Shift https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/ All the best cycling news, tech, rumors and reviews Wed, 24 Jan 2024 06:43:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.2 By: Jeroen https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/#comment-3521796 Wed, 24 Jan 2024 06:43:14 +0000 https://bikerumor.com/?p=350400#comment-3521796 In reply to Ben.

Most 45c-clearanced-frames will work fine with 27.5×2.1″

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By: Jeroen https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/#comment-3521795 Wed, 24 Jan 2024 06:42:21 +0000 https://bikerumor.com/?p=350400#comment-3521795 In reply to Oliver.

Oval rings have to be timed with your leg-stroke to have any (if there is any…) effect. In a Pinion gearbox there’s a whole set of gears (aka ratios) between the cranks (input, aka your legs…) and the belt pulley/chain ring (output). So yeah, technically an oval chainring or belt pulley can be made, but it makes no sense at all.

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By: Ben https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/#comment-3521791 Wed, 24 Jan 2024 01:25:14 +0000 https://bikerumor.com/?p=350400#comment-3521791 In reply to SteveT.

“Need”? That’s probably accurate.
But who around here only considers what they ‘need’ related to bikes versus what they ‘want’?
And also, 700x50s as well as 27.5×2.1s are totally rad on a gravel rig.

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By: SteveT https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/#comment-3521767 Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:46:37 +0000 https://bikerumor.com/?p=350400#comment-3521767 In reply to mud.

The vast majority of gravel rides and riders never need anything over a 45. If you are actually riding stuff regularly that requires a tire over a 45 you might as well be on an XC MTB at that point if you are honest about it. 🙂

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By: SteveT https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/#comment-3521766 Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:39:57 +0000 https://bikerumor.com/?p=350400#comment-3521766 In reply to Oliver.

Yes, because non professional racers actually need power meters or the slew of other devices the gullible have been convinced they need to ride a bike recreationally. LOL

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By: Oliver https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/#comment-3521758 Tue, 23 Jan 2024 10:12:10 +0000 https://bikerumor.com/?p=350400#comment-3521758 In reply to Matthias.

lol. “if you think just a few seconds” – oval chainrings for belt drives work in exactly the same way as they do for chain driven. there’s no difference. you can get them made up yourself, but it would be useful to have them made available by Gates or Pinion. PM pedals are less durable, often increase stack, cost the earth and unless axle based drastically reduce shoe clarance at pedal axle.

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By: mud https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/#comment-3521749 Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:01:49 +0000 https://bikerumor.com/?p=350400#comment-3521749 In reply to Oliver.

That’s nuts. An integral power meter in a Pinion? Oval rings with a Gates drive?

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By: mud https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/#comment-3521748 Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:59:11 +0000 https://bikerumor.com/?p=350400#comment-3521748 Looks like the frame would take 45mm tires max, kind of a miss for Pilot. Don’t know what kind of “chainline” such a set up would be but if it works for the Priority 600 they could easily have designed the frame to take a bigger tire, which would appeal to those who are ready to jump on this. Plus an adventure fork.

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By: Matthias https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/#comment-3521747 Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:50:03 +0000 https://bikerumor.com/?p=350400#comment-3521747 In reply to Oliver.

Of all these things, the power meter is the only one that might make a tiny bit of sense if you explained what your problem with pedal based meter is. If you don’t like the gearing, change a sprocket, so that’s a non-issue, and if you think just a few seconds of how an oval chainring would even work with a Pinion it should become clear that it doesn’t.

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By: Oliver https://bikerumor.com/pilot-scram-pinion-gravel-bike/#comment-3521745 Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:22:10 +0000 https://bikerumor.com/?p=350400#comment-3521745 Disappointingly Pinion have no plans to accommodate any of the following: power meter that isn’t pedal based; gearing that isn’t adventure / touring; oval chainrings. I’d assumed all would be on the cards given this development … but they said no plans for any of them.

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